it's not using condoms. it's access to condoms. how do you get a condom when you're a 15-year-old gay man living in the south? what do you do? you walk into a pharmacy and actually go up to the pharmacist and, you know, all that stuff is incredibly stigmatized and frightening. so i think what communities have to do is really address the problem through the lens of, are we doing everything possible to help these kids protect themselves? >> sreenivasan: one of the things that people don't necessarily look at very often it seems very cold and calculated is the numerical cost. obviously the worst cost is someone's life. but one of the things that was interesting to me in this report that said that these folks that are infected so young could cost the system $400,000, a cost that all of us are bearing in some ways. >> sure. one of the things that the report is trying to emphasize and that i think is critical. if you don't know you're infeked you're not going to start on treatment. the treatment works. and the treatment might be expensiv